Of course, this song refers to a distant era (post Great Depression), which were great if you had a job, great if you were male and great if you weren't a minority.

Boy, the way Glenn Miller played. Songs that made the Hit Parade.

Guys like us, we had it made. Those were the days.

Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight.

Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days.

And you know who you were then. Girls were girls and men were men.

Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.

People seemed to be content. Fifty dollars paid the rent.

Freaks were in a circus tent. Those were the days.

Take a little Sunday spin, go to watch the Dodgers win.

Have yourself a dandy day that cost you under a fin.

Hair was short and skirts were long. Kate Smith really sold a song.

I don't know just what went wrong. Those Were The Days.



Ok Archie, those were the days!!!!!! haha

As a parent, curfew rules would have taken precedence and taught the importance to obey them and why.

What if there were drunk drivers on the road? At the early morning hours what good would have come out of any type of underage endeavor? Everyone is silent.....

I remember when the court system was used to try criminal cases and not "high school hazing"....but what the heck "anything goes now"

Your postcase a-wrests the truths away from it's readers.

The public confessions as stated by the "whistle-blowers" mother indicate "she had an uneasy feeling" prior to her daughters traditional kidnapping (planned in advance by the way).

To embrace your theory as I stated as the underlying problems identified in this case would be for you to admit that truth. You have not; therefore it seemingly appears to be that of non-parental consent.

The "overzealous" parent as I identified has never proven she may be trusted; therefore no sympathy can be embraced.

I rest my case.

OPINION: How sad, "usurping" posts into a political opinion. :-(

FACTS:

To embrace the underlying problems identified in this case, seemingly appears to be that of non-parental consent; over-loading court dockets excessively into litigation, thereby increasing prosecutorial decisions to apply guidelines and procedures which cases that will hold up to Pre-Trial Diversions. Not every case applies accordingly and not every case is "major" in it's merits to convict through "normal" trial procedures.

Locate your nearest DA--- he'll 'splain it to ya!

In my opinion, you just like to hear yourself talk.. mrhsparent (Sunday, Dec 28 at 03:10 P)

I think this statement is absolutely correct. I went back and revisited some of the early articles on this and it appears that throughout these responses, LHS_Graduate has consistently taken the position of the accused and only attempted to seek the moral high ground after the girls confessions and settlement with authorities.

Hazing has been around for decades, yet suddenly there seems to be a quick rush to judgement before all the facts are supported with evidence.. LHS_Graduate (Friday, Nov 21 at 12:18 P)

This is one of the earliest posts on this series challenging readers to see the facts first before judging, but when the facts are produced and the older students accept responsibility for their actions, it looks like LHS_Grad reverses course and runs off on another tangent regarding the legal system.

A very liberal mindset if you ask me and not one that promotes individual responsibility. From what I've observed in this comment section, it looks to me like a definite need to be the center of attention and not a genuine interest in seeing justice served.

I, for one, appreciate the hard work of the law enforcement team and the DA. One other observation, if you note, is that the LHS_Graduate poster made a rather partisan political statement about all this and apparently is less concerned about the true victims than with the party affiliation of the DA whose office handled this case.

How sad.

"You strike me.." wow mrhsparent welcome to Fort Bend County!" Have you ever visited with the District Attorney? Do you even know personally the District Attorney in Fort Bend. I do. Once again, do you have the vaguest of legal mindset to know how our Fort Bend Court System is run? I do. Do you have the vaguest of legal mindset to know how many Assistant District Attorneys quit this past year alone? I do.

Sorry mrhsparent, once again your failure to provide legal documentations to supporting facts

are absent. Who knows perhaps we shall cite you for truancy for failure to submit proper and legal backup. Pity.

Don't expect to put your opinions down in writing without your legal analysis to hold yourself accountable. All of your statements to referencing characters to any poster, surely is not a legacy you desire? Is that your legacy you in fact desire?

Facts:

My interests are in analysis to Intergovernmental Relations, thus the rules & regulations that every parent/child must legally adher to in school. Where is yours to teach us a lesson with hum? Don't expect to sit there with no clue that this parent is NOT to blame. Rape has nothing to do with this case, perhaps rape therapy would have been more meaningful for us to debate?

It is rather amazing watching this blog. I remember when we used to blame the victims of rape wearing the mini skirts or tube top. The implication was they were asking for it, but hopefully today we know better, at least some of us.

I don't think you understand that the parents were lied to by the older girls before these attacks, with the tied hands and gagged mouths before having feces rubbed on their faces (which apparently they have confessed to) and thrown into the pool.

The parents became 'zealous', as you put it, after they heard what had happened and how they had been mislead by the perpetrators. If you need point the finger at where supervision failed then perhaps look at the school and the sponsors (adult supervision), not the parents who were repeatedly lied to. Maybe they were fools for trusting the system to protect their young daughters who just wanted to be part of something bigger than themselves, but were abused instead.

You strike me as someone who would defend anyone whom has instigated a crime regardless or the actions involved. The older girls have confessed and are doing the right thing. In my opinion, you just like to hear yourself talk.

"Then why the heck did that family allow their daughter to go out without parental supervision?"

That about says it all.....

Fact:

Legally the justice system pleas out (bargains) a majority of it's cases.

Your thought process to "Providing better supervision" relative to the school is thought provoking at best in that one only has to reminisce of one very public "crime" that some over zealous parents blew out of proportion to the media. In fact it involved FBISD's police force... not KISD.

I believe the term used was "slashdotted", never have I know what that meant until FortBendNow's Editor-in-Chief, Bob Dunn circulated his post upon our website.

The entire world was laughing at FBISD and that particular over-zealous incident in question brought about by none other than an over-zealous parent. It of course did not involve hazing but yet nonetheless it involved a very intellegent, honorary student who created his own computer game at his own home....should you not be familiar with the case, the over-zealous parents of a friend that was invited to that student's home "blew the whistle" that the computer game in question involved a real-time map of their school. The public was furious over how inane and inconsiquentially "over the top" law enforcement became. Why did FBISD law enforcement get involved? Parents are betraying their own young by not sitting down peacefully to discuss matters as they should. What are we teaching when law enforcement does nothing but arrest citizens first....ask questions later. You are only fooling yourself if you believe law enforcement is always there for your protection. They are not Judges, nor do they sometimes care to speak to all witnesses of that "said" crime. It is easier to haul citizens to jail. Where are your legal statements to back up that in fact this parent in this particular case was nothing more than out for vengeance? Where are the other parents to back them up? No the school is NOT to blame. Their rules were explicit, and this parent was publically admitting prior to this incident in essence "she felt like something was amiss." Then why the heck did that family allow their daughter to go out without parental supervision? Your analogy fails to prove that that family, should not be blamed as well.

Proof it. Proof it that their daughter did NOT smile for the television cameras. Proof it they are NOT out to get all they can from the public sympathy factor. They are to blame for allowing, their children out with no parental supervision in the middle of the morning hours. Lie or no lie, that parent should never allow that child lose without parental supervision especially since that family publically admitted to "feeling uneasy" ...

I guess one would ask themselves why anyone would continue to post that the victims were not the victims in all this and that prosecuting such crimes is somehow a waste of our money, when it diverts these cases from a full blown and very expensive trial, while doing so in a voluntary manner?

I guess the volunteer nature of it is missed by some. In 1 year the accused will be able to petition the court and have it entirely removed from their police record. Sounds to me like a bargain. I would have to agree with the individual who said the media coverage may be the stigmatizing force, but for me when the school fails to protect the younger children from attacks by the older ones then law enforcement must be brought in as any parent would have responsibly done given the circumstances.

Yes, where was the adult supervision? If you read the prior articles you will find the answer was in the story circulated by the older students (a lie). Thank goodness the younger victims did speak up and not just bury this or maybe this years initiation would have been the fatal one.

Well done, once again, to the DA and law enforcement and shame on the school for not seeing these problems sooner and intervening.

TEXAS LAW:

Pre-Trial Diversion

Intervention Program

*********************

Texas District & County Attorneys Association

http:/tdcaa.infopop.net

"I am starting a new Pre-Trial Intervention Program from scratch. As this has never been done in our county before, I have nothing to build upon or adapt. Any suggestions, recommendations, input on what is essential to put in the agreement or how to best establish the program?"

Hope this helps...

"I hate to disagree and I don't want to sound like I am criticizing any office that has a Pre-Trial Diversion Program, but I do think that anyone starting such a program should consider the negatives.

I strongly feel that a PT Diversion Program is:

(A) Not sufficiently authorized by law

(B) Inconsistent with the law of the role of a Prosecutor.

You end up being lawmen, prosecutor, probation officer, and judge.

We are elected to decide whether there is sufficient effidence to prosecute. PT diversion is nothing more than a law unto itself-- with no outside review. That makes me very nervous."

mrhsparent wrote on Saturday, Dec 27 at 01:50 PM »

"Rubbing feces on someones face is assault (period). Tying their hands behind their backs and dumping them into a pool, in many instances, is attempted murder" .....hahaha....God help us....

Once again:

Where were the parents at the time of the kidnapping? Asleep? Certainly not with the kids or do you care? If you cared, you would have spoken about that. Speaking about "odd", where's your responsibility to guide others that read your post from shucking away their own parental responsibility hum? Wow, get a life or at least read up on parenting for all society's sake.

Love, Peace, and Sweet Dreams

["Enjoy" your Christmas]

[Enjoy" your New Year]

mrhsparent....

is more my style, respectfully if you knew me personally. But of course your remarks are lacking in empathy in any type of dignity. So be it.

"Your problem still seems to be in your lack of involvement ...." In this school mrhsparent, how are you involved? It is a relevant, pertinent question even if you were not involved personally. Now one can be involved personally without realistically being a parent at that particular school. Should you care to bring yourself to speaking of the REAL issues we are listening....where are they? Attacking from behind a pseudonym does nothing to your integrity, I speak from the heart and in facts that are documented for every parent/child to read in their

Student Code of Conduct Book

Where is yours by the way?

"I think your attitude is unforgiveable."

Where are your facts to backup your proof?

Once again, are you personally involved in educating the public with facts to back you up?

No. It is not a "moot" point, not when you prefer to attack rather than provide proof to provide any type of credibility with respect to your antagonistic references to target me rather than the REAL focus here. Glossing over that fact does nothing to elevate your credibility.

"Argumentative" is a legal term in the dictionary. You may look it up to further analyze if you wish. It is complimentary in fact. Thank you.

"As for saying this is all moot."

Once again where is your credibility to prove counseling was in fact glossed over?

Mrhsparent you have not even confessed to the Texas law that actually has been in effect connecting hazing to be a crime! It was enacted in 1997. Your post is moot. Thank you for calling yourself out.

No need to come clean on anything the law enforcement officials and district attorneys office have dealt with the situation. Yes it would be nice if we could turn all the prisoners in jail into optimist, but that isn't realistic now is it.

Your problem still seems to be in your lack of involvement in this school and that you see the perpetrators as the victims, which is a very liberal attitude. Those that are more informed know that the young ladies were the victims of the assault that you keep glossing over. I think your attitude is unforgiveable.

As for saying this is all moot. I believe that is a 100% accurate description as the perps have confessed and are making amends as best they can. Your points are simply argumentative as is your odd perspective on crime.

Enjoy arguing with yourself. This case is done and justice was served. Whether or not that is optimistic enough for you is just too bad.

Your chance to come clean with reality only fails in that "moot" is a pessimistic approach surely to fail ....

"Optimists experience less physical distress in challenging situations than pessimists and have stronger immune systems, according to 25 years research conducted by Dr. Michael Scheier and his colleagues at Carnegie Mellon University."

Failure was never an option in "The Little Engine That Could" ...faster and harder saying "I-think-I-can" repetitively until finally he succeeded! Alas, mrhsparent your interests become somewhat mooted into oblivion once your support is to look out for only you. No one else. Where's your own attempt at reaching a positive solution ---now publically witnessed by all to live up to? In other words: NO this case is not moot by any means...in fact it characterizes that every parent is not of the same optimistic mindset to achieving the same goals as spelled out explicitly in their child's disciplinary handbook. Where was that parent or any parent for that matter--absent-- once that "traditional" initiation began unraveling? You're playing into the menagerie that the media is selling you....pity. Pity, surely due to the fact that the JUDGE in this case had no clue what dignity even is. If she did, than where is the counseling ordered hum? You are only filling yourself up with minutia, wasting your own, everyone' school taxes on a media circus act. Besides, law enforcement is not the one to be applauded my gosh where is your legal sense? When a citizen is out for blood in the public eye (pity) but they usually get their blood money in one way or another. Who knows, maybe a movie will be on the menu now.....

It is you who needs to stop regurgitating what the media feeds you, and work educationally with your own school district to successfully maintain current rules & regulations to the legislative process. Get involved. This family that "blew the whistle" is out for vengeance, IMHO, only in that their placating to the public involved the first hazing case to ever be tried under the NEW Texas law to hazing...moot my friend? Come again with a reality check particularly since other victims since 1997 have died. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

Get a life about what kind of society placating minutia you are playing with.